2016 TOYOTA TUNDRA Complaints

BUILT IN BREAK CONTROLLER IS NOT WORKING PROPERLY. WITH FULL GAIN, IT DOES NOT APPLY THE CORRECT AMOUNT OF BRAKES TO MY TRAILER. THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS AND COULD LEAD TO AN ACCIDENT.

TRUCK IS RATED TO TOW 9100LBS, AND INCLUDES AN INTEGRATED TRAILER BRAKE CONTROLLER FOR USE WITH ELECTRIC TRAILER BRAKES (WHICH IS NEW FOR 2016 TUNDRA'S). THE FIRST TIME I HOOKED THE TRUCK UP TO THE TRAILER, I SET UP THE TRAILER BRAKES USING THE OWNERS MANUAL. AFTER PULLING OUT ONTO THE STREET I IMMEDIATELY NOTICED THAT WHEN I PRESSED THE BRAKES THE TRAILER BRAKES FAILED TO ENGAGE. MY TRAILER WEIGHS NEARLY 8000LBS. LUCKILY, THE MANUAL SLIDER WORKS TO ENGAGE THE TRAILER BRAKES, BUT EVEN ON A GAIN SETTING OF 10 (MAX) THE FOOT BRAKE FAILS TO ADEQUATELY ENGAGE THE BRAKES ON MY TRAILER. I HAVE TRIED 2 OTHER TRAILERS, AND TALKED TO MULTIPLE 2016 TUNDRA OWNERS ONLINE AND THIS PROBLEM IS CONSISTENT ACROSS ALL TUNDRA'S TOWING ANY TYPE TRAILER. UNDER HARD BRAKNG AT ANY SPEED MY TRAILER WANTS TO JACKNIFE AND PUSH THE TRUCK OUT OF IT'S WAY, BECAUSE THE BRAKES ON THE TRUCK ARE ENGAGING TO MAX AND THE TRAILER BRAKES ARE HARDLY ENGAGING AT ALL EVEN ON MAX GAIN SETTING. THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED AND TOYOTA IS NOT COMING FORWARD WITH A FIX. THEY CLAIM THE CONTROLLER IS "WORKING AS DESIGNED", BUT I TOW 8000LBS BEHIND ME AND WITHOUT ADEQUATE TRAILER BRAKES A SERIOUS ACCIDENT IS JUST WAITING TO HAPPEN. SOMEONE NEEDS TO STEP IN AND FORCE TOYOTA TO ADDRESS THIS SERIOUS ISSUE BEFORE SOMEONE IS HURT OR KILLED. LUCKILY THE MANUAL SLIDER STILL WORKS, BUT THAT IS A BANDAID SOLUTION EVERY TUNDRA OWNER CAN'T BE EXPECTED TO DRIVE AROUND MANUALLY APPLYING THE TRAILER BRAKES SEPARATE FROM THE FOOT BRAKE. IF I CAN STOP MY TRAILER FASTER WHEN MANUALLY APPLYING THE TRAILER BRAKES THAN THE TRUCK WILL STOP WITH JUST THE FOOT BRAKE, THAN SOMETHING IS OBVIOUSLY DEFECTIVE! IN WHAT SCENARIO WOULD TOYOTA EVER WANT MY TRUCK TO STOP LESS QUICKLY IN A MAX BRAKING SITUATION? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, AND THEY NEED TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION!

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2016 TOYOTA TUNDRA. WHILE DRIVING VARIOUS SPEEDS, THE BALL JOINT FAILED AND DAMAGED THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO DEALER FOR DIAGNOSTIC TESTING, BUT THE RESULTS WERE NOT PROVIDED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 14,000.

RE: INTEGRATED BREAK CONTROLLER I WANTED TO EXPRESS A SERIOUS SAFETY CONCERN I HAVE WITH AN ITEM THAT NOW SHIPS WITH THE 2016 TOYOTA 5.7L TUNDRA'S - THE BUILT IN / INTEGRATED BREAK CONTROLLER FOR USE WHEN PULLING TRAILERS/CAMPERS/ETC. IT SEEMS THAT REGARDLESS OF THE POWER SETTING, NO NOTICEABLE POWER IS SUPPLIED TO THE TRAILER BRAKES, EVEN AT IT'S HIGHEST SETTING. IT FEELS LIKE THE TRAILER/CAMPER IS PUSHING THE TRUCK, WHICH CAN BE A SERIOUS ISSUE WHEN STOPPING. THIS WOULD HAPPEN EVERY TIME I WOULD TOW AND I WAS ALWAYS VERY WORRIED ABOUT CAUSING AN ACCIDENT IF I NEEDED TO STOP QUICKLY OR IF THE ROAD CONDITIONS WERE NOT IDEA. I'VE NEVER FELT THIS WITH OTHER BREAK CONTROLLERS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING TOYOTA HAS NOT ACKNOWLEDGED THIS AS BEING AN ISSUE YET. AFTER TALKING TO MANY OTHER TUNDRA OWNERS EVERYONE HAS THE SAME ISSUE, I'VE NOT TALKED TO ANYONE THAT HAS A WORKING INTEGRATED BREAK CONTROLLER IN THEIR 2016. I'VE TAKEN OUT MY INTEGRATED BREAK CONTROLLER THAT CAME IN MY 2016 TOYOTA TUNDRA AND REPLACED IT WITH AN AFTER MARKET BRAKE CONTROLLER OUT SO I CAN PROPERTY BRAKE WITH MY CAMPER ATTACHED. FOR NOW MY ISSUE IS RESOLVED, HOWEVER, I AM HOWEVER VERY WORRIED ABOUT OTHERS THAT MIGHT BE USING THE INTEGRATED BREAK CONTROLLER AND THE HUGE POTENTIAL FOR A SERIOUS ACCIDENT BECAUSE THEIR TRAILER OR CAMPER BRAKES ARE NOT WORKING. PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS BEFORE ANY SERIOUS ACCIDENTS HAPPEN. THANKS!

FACTORY INTEGRATED BRAKE CONTROLLER DOES NOT WORK EFFICIENTLY. WITH THE IBC GAIN UP TO 10, THE TRAILER BRAKES ARE NOT ACTIVATED ENOUGH TO SLOW THE VEHICLE IN A NORMAL OR EMERGENCY SITUATION. THE MANUAL OVERRIDE SLIDE BAR BARELY ENGAGES THE TRAILER BRAKES, IT WILL NOT LOCK THE TRAILER BRAKES AS DESIGNED. VEHICLE BRAKES BEGIN TO GET TO HOT TO SLOW BOTH THE TRUCK AND TRAILER COMING DOWN HILLS, EXTREMELY DANGEROUS!

THE INTEGRATED BRAKE CONTROLLER IS NOT WORK WHEN APPLYING THE BRAKES IN ELECTRIC BRAKE MODE. TOOK MY TUNDRA OUT FOR A TEST DRIVE WITH MY 24' 3200 LB TRAVEL TRAILER. I SET THE GAIN TO 10 AND HIT THE MANUAL SLIDE AND THE TRAILER TIRES LOCKED UP. STEPPED ON THE BRAKES AND COULDN'T FEEL ANY BRAKES BEING APPLIED TO THE TRAILER. I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED THE TRAILER TIRES TO LOCKUP WHEN I HIT THE BRAKES WITH A GAIN OF 10. THIS COULD MAKE A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION.

THE INTEGRATED BRAKE TRAILER CONTROLLER TO CONTROL THE BRAKES ON A TRAILER IS NOT WORKING. THE BRAKE CONTROLLER FAILS TO CONTROL THE BRAKES ON THE TRAILER WHILE IN "ELECTRIC" MODE FOR ELECTRIC BRAKES. IT IS VERY DANGEROUS TO RELY ON A BRAKE CONTROLLER TO SLOW OR STOP A VEHICLE THAT IS TOWING A LOAD WITH TRAILER BRAKES THAT ARE NOT WORKING. I TOWED OUR CAMPER THIS LAST WEEKEND WITH MY ENTIRE FAMILY IN THE CAR AND IT WAS VERY DANGEROUS TO MY FAMILY AND OTHERS ON THE ROAD.

INTEGRATED TRAILER BRAKE CONTROLLER NOT FUNCTIONING CORRECTLY. IN ELECTRIC MODE, NO POWER SETTING (1-10) IS ABLE TO GET THE TRAILER BRAKES TO LOCK UP WHEN THE TRUCK BRAKES ARE APPLIED. THIS IS A CRUCIAL TEST TO CALIBRATE THE TRAILER BRAKES BEFORE GOING ON THE ROAD, AND DEMONSTRATES THAT THE OUTPUT SIGNAL FROM THE BRAKE CONTROLLER ISN'T SUFFICIENT TO STOP THE TRUCK/TRAILER COMBO IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. THE TRAILER BRAKES ARE ABLE TO LOCK UP WITH CERTAIN SETTINGS IF YOU MANUALLY ACTIVATE THE TRIGGER, DEMONSTRATING THAT THE CONTROLLER NOT ONLY HAS THE ABILITY TO LOCK UP THE BRAKES, BUT THAT THE TRAILER ITSELF ISNT THE PROBLEM. THE PROGRAMMING OF THE CONTROLLER IS SUSPECT.

THE CONTROL BRAKING DOES NOT WORKING PROPERLY WHEN TOWING. I HAVE GAINED SET TO HIGHEST LEVEL WHICH IS 10 AND ON A EMPTY 6X10 TOY TRAILER IT WILL NOT LOCK UP. WHEN JUST PRESSING WITH BRAKE DOES NOT WORK AT ALL ONLY HAS LITTLES TENSION WHEN PRESSING THE BRAKE SLIDER MANUALLY. THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS

THE BUILT IN TRAILER BRAKE CONTROLLER DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY WHEN USED WITH ANY TRAILER EQUIPPED WITH ELECTRIC BRAKES. IT IS NOT CAPABLE OF CONTROLLING LOADED TRAILERS SAFELY. I HAVE BROUGHT THIS MATTER TO THE ATTENTION OF TOYOTA AND THE MASTER TECHNICIAN AT MY LOCAL DEALERSHIP SAYS HE UNDERSTANDS THE PROBLEM AND CAN REPRODUCE THE SAFETY ISSUE UNDER TESTING - BUT AT THIS TIME THE MANUFACTURER HAS NO RECOMMENDED SOLUTION IN PLACE TO FIX THIS ISSUE. PLEASE HELP AS IT IS DANGEROUS. DEFECT WAS ALSO EVIDENT ON A SECOND SIMILAR BRAND NEW VEHICLE TAKEN FROM DEALER LOT FOR TESTING AT MY LAST VISIT TO DEALER.