2008 MINI COOPER CLUBMAN Complaints

I HAVE AN OIL LEAK ON THE PASSENGER SIDE THAT IS COMING FROM THE TENSIONER LOCATION. THE OIL IS DRIPPING ON THE EXHAUST CAUSING STEAM TO RISE FROM THE ENGINE. I AM AFRAID THAT THE CAR WILL EVENTUALLY BURN ENOUGH OIL TO CATCH ON FIRE. I WILL TOW THE CAR TO BRAMAN MINI PALM BEACH (PURCHASED CAR HERE TOO) AND SEE IF THEY CAN DIAGNOSE THE PROBLEM. *TR

I JUST PURCHASED A PRE-OWNED 2008 MINI COOPER S 2MONTHS AGO... I JUST STARTED HAVING A COLD START ISSUE SINCE WHEN I BOUGHT THE CAR IT WAS HOT OUT AND NOW SINCE THE TEMP HAS DROPPED THE CAR HAS A CHATTER COMING FROM THE ENGINE BAY. I HAVE SEARCHED ALL OVER THE INTERNET AND I HAVE SEEN THERE ARE MANY COOPERS WITH THE SAME ISSUE AND MANY HAVE REPLACED TIMING CHAINS FOR ALMOST $2000 AND THE MANUFACTURER ISN'T BRINGING A RECALL TO ATTENTION. I WORK IN A DEALERSHIP AS A SALES PERSON AND MANY MECHANICS ARE SAYING IS A TIMING ISSUE. I FEEL LOSS OF POWER AND NOW FEEL THE CAR CAN DIE AT ANY MOMENT. PLEASE MAKE MINI OPEN AND INVESTIGATION IN THIS MATTER. *TR

THESE CARS COME WITH A FAULTY TIMING CHAIN. MINI COOPER WON'T DO A RECALL ON THE VEHICLE. I AM HAVING TO PAY 1500.00 TO FIX THIS ISSUE AND THE I HAVE NO WARRANTY. I HAVE HEARD FROM MANY AND SEEN THE REVIEWS ABOUT THIS ISSUE. IT HAPPENS TO VEHICLE OWNERS WITH LESS MILES. MINI NEEDS TO MAKE A RECALL FOR THIS ISSUE. THESE ARE PRICEY CARS BUT IF MINI HAS DONE A MALFUNCTIONS WHILE BUILDING THE CAR THEY SHOULD OWN UP TO IT AND GET IT FIX. *TR

I OWN A 08 MINI COOPER CLUBMAN WITH 48,000 MILES AND THE WARRANTY JUST RAN OUT ON JUNE 2812: I TOOK IT IN FOR A REPAIR IN MAY AND NO ONE AT THIS DEALER MENTIONED THE TIMING BELT TENSIONER! I WAS DRIVING DOWN MY ROAD AND THANK GOD THE SPEED LIMIT WAS ONLY 35 WHEN SUDDENLY THE BELT JUMPED AND MY CAR LOST ITS ENGINE: TOOK IT TO MY LOCAL STATION AND THEY LOOKED INSIDE AND SAID SOMETHING CAME LOOSE FROM THE INSIDE OF ENGINE AND TORE IT UP AND I NEED A NEW ENGINE: SO I CALLED DEALER AND CORP AND THEY SAY I NEED TO SPEND MONEY TO GET THEIR TECHS TO LOOK AT IT AND NOT MY MECHANIC:SO I GOT ON LINE AND INVESTIGATED THE PROBLEM AND FOUND THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM FROM MINI WITH A DEFECTIVE TENSIONER WHICH OUT OF NO WHERE WITHOUT WARNING FLIES OFF: MINI REFUSES TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS AND EVERY MECHANIC SAYS IT IS NOT THE OWNERS PROBLEM AND A BELT SHOULD NEVER FLY OFF: FURTHER THE BELT ON LT BREAKS WHEN IT FLIES IN THE PISTONS AND BREAKS OTHER PARTS OF THE ENGINE: MINI WILL WAIT UNTIL SOMEONE IS KILLED WHILE DRIVING DOWN A HIGHWAY AND IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED! A COMPLAINT IS SIGNED WITH OVER 850 SIGNING IT AND HOPE MANY MORE BUT I STILL THINK IT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE ENOUGH WHERE YOU SHOULD GET INVOLVED: MINI IS SCREWING THE PEOPLE AND REFUSE TO ADMIT THIS IS A DEFECTIVE PART AND IN MOST CASES WONT PAY FOR THE NEW ENGINE WHILE WE STILL OWE THOUSANDS ON THE CAR: PLEASE GET INVOLVED AND MAKE MINI CORP PAY FOR THE DAMAGES THAT THEY CAUSE BY REFUSING TO FIX THIS PROBLEM ONCE AND FOR ALL: NO TIMING BELT SHOULD HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED AND SURELY A TIMING BELT SHOULD LAST 80,000 MILES: THIS COMPANY IS CHEAP AND IS WAITING FOR A DISASTER!! PLEASE PLEASE HELP THE PEOPLE AND MAKE MINI TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAULTY PARTS!!![XXX] INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6). *TR

TIMING CHAIN AND TENSIONER FAILURE AT 39K, COMMON PREMATURE FAILURE PART ON THIS ENGINE WHEN I LOOKED ONLINE. WE LOVE OUR CLUBMAN, BUT JUST GLAD IT DIDN'T HAPPEN WHEN WE WERE ON THE INTERSTATE! *TR

PLEASE REFER TO MY PREVIOUS COMPLAINT 10443238 FOR THE INITIAL INFORMATION. THIS COMPLAINT IS THE FOLLOW UP. THE CAR WENT IN TO THE DEALER FOR THE DIESELING SOUND THE CAR WAS MAKING. THE DIAGNOSIS WAS THAT TIMING CHAIN WAS STRETCHED AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. OTHER ASSOCIATED COMPONENTS SUCH AS THE CHAIN TENSIONER WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE REPLACED. TOTAL COST IS $2200. I STARTED RESEARCHING THIS ISSUE ON THE INTERNET TO SEE IF OTHERS HAVE HAD THIS ISSUE. THIS LED TO A WEBSITE 'NORTHAMERICANMOTORING.COM'. USING THE SEARCH OF TIMING CHAIN, THERE WERE 15 PAGES OF COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD THIS EXACT SAME REPAIR DONE ON THEIR CARS. SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BACK TO THE DEALERSHIP WITH THESE TIMING CHAIN REPAIRS OR EVEN COMPLETE TIMING CHAIN BREAKAGE, THAT BMW HAS ISSUE A SERVICE BULLETIN TO OUTLINE THE REPAIRS NECESSARY TO SERVICE ALL THESE CARS. THE BULLETIN NUMBER IS M11 02 07. ABOUT A DOZEN PARTS HAVE TO BE REPLACED UNDER THIS SERVICE BULLETIN. WHEN THE TIMING CHAIN STRETCHES TOO FAR OUT OF SPEC OR JUST BREAKS, AND THE CAR IS UNDER WARRANTY, BMW WILL FIX IT. IF IT'S OUT OF WARRANTY, THE $2200 COST IS THE CUSTOMERS PROBLEM. BMW WILL NOT ADMIT THAT THESE PARTS WERE UNDER ENGINEERED, BUT THEY ARE. THE REPLACEMENT TIMING CHAIN AND TENSIONER ARE MORE ROBUST TO HANDLE THE ENGINE LOADS. IF THE PARTS WERE PROPERLY ENGINEERED IN THE FIRST PLACE, BMW AND IT'S CUSTOMERS WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO MAKE ALL THESE EXPENSIVE REPAIRS. IN SOME CASES WHEN THE TIMING CHAIN BROKE WHEN THE CAR WAS STILL WITHIN WARRANTY, INTAKE AND EXHAUST VALVES RAN INTO THE PISTONS CAUSING THE NEED FOR ENTIRE ENGINE REPLACEMENT. THE COST FOR THAT WAS $9000. IF THIS HAPPENED WHEN THE CAR WAS OUT OF WARRANTY, THE CUSTOMER HAD TO PAY THE $9000. BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AFFECTED, THIS ISSUE JUST SCREAMS RECALL BUT BMW WILL NOT STEP UP TO IT. PLEASE BEGIN AN INVESTIGATION AND HELP US!! *TR

THE FRONT PASSENGER SEAT OCCUPANCY AIRBAG SENSOR HAS FAILED. CONSEQUENTLY THE FRONT PASSENGER AIRBAG IS TURNED OFF EVEN IF THE SEAT IS OCCUPIED. THIS IS AN ONGOING PROBLEM WITH PREVIOUS MINI'S AND BMW'S AND WARRANTS A SAFETY RECALL. THIS IS AN EXPENSIVE REPAIR AND PREVIOUS OLDER MODEL MINI'S AND BMW'S HAVE BEEN RECALLED TO FIX THIS ISSUE. *TR

I HAVE THE S (TURBO) MODEL. WHEN IT'S COLD OUTSIDE (LESS THAN 40 DEGREES) AND THE ENGINE IS COLD (SITTING OVERNIGHT) IT SOUNDS LIKE A DIESEL ENGINE AT START UP. THE FIRST 60 SECONDS OF IDLE IS AWFUL. THE ENGINE CLATTERS LIKE A DIESEL AND THERE IS A BUZZ AS WELL. LIKE A LOOSE HEAT SHIELD OR SOMETHING. I HAVE HAD MANY CARS AND TRUCKS IN MY LIFE AND I HAVE NEVER HAD A VEHICLE SOUND LIKE THIS AT IDLE WHEN IT'S COLD. THE ENGINE OIL IS FULL AND I HAVE SYNTHETIC OIL IN IT. SO OIL VISCOSITY CANNOT BE AN ISSUE. I AM WORRIED THAT ENGINE DAMAGE IS BEING DONE AND I AM GOING TO GET STUCK WITH AN ENGINE OR CYLINDER HEAD REBUILD OR REPLACEMENT. AFTER ABOUT A MINUTE, THE ENGINE BEGINS TO QUIET DOWN AND THEN SMOOTHES OUT. BUT THOSE START UPS!! ABSOLUTELY GOD AWFUL. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AN INVESTIGATION STARTED ON THIS VEHICLE. I HAVE READ ABOUT THIS ISSUE IN MINI COOPER FORUMS ONLINE AND THIS IS A WIDESPREAD AND COMPLAINED ABOUT ISSUE. BMW HAS APPARENTLY TRIED A NUMBER OF FIXES TO NO AVAIL, BUT SOMETHING HAS TO BE WRONG. SOMETHING IS JUST NOT ENGINEERED CORRECTLY. I BOUGHT THE CAR USED IN THE SPRING OF 2011 AND THE TEMPERATURES WERE WARM ENOUGH THAT THE COLD START CLATTERING WASN'T TOO BAD. BUT BY OCTOBER WHEN THE MORNING LOWS WERE COLDER, THE PROBLEM REALLY BEGAN TO SHOW UP. NOTHING HAS BROKEN YET BUT IT SURE SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING IS READY TO LET LOOSE. HELP! *TR

CAR CAUGHT FIRE AND BURNED UP (TOTALED) IN MY DRIVEWAY AFTER IT WAS SHUT OFF. FIRE STARTED IN THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT ABOUT 10 MINUTES AFTER I SHUT IT OFF AND GOT OUT OF THE CAR. IT NEARLY BURNED DOWN MY HOUSE TOO -- FRONT STEPS AND FENCE CAUGHT FIRE BEFORE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GOT THERE AND EXTINGUISHED THE FIRE. HAVE PHOTOS TO DOCUMENT. *TR

2008 MINI CLUBMAN. SPEEDOMETER IS NOT ACCURATE OFF BY APPROX. 5-6 MPH AT 60 MPH. DEALER DID NOT CARE. *TR