2015 TESLA MODEL S Complaints

THIS IS ANOTHER COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TESLA AUTOPILOT. OWNERS ARE COMPLAINING ON THE FORUMS THAT THE NEW UPGRADE VERSION 8.0 HAS MADE THINGS EVEN MORE DANGEROUS. HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/WITH-8-0-I-HAVE-TO-TAKE-OVER-FOR-AUTO-PILOT-MORE.78049/PAGE-2 SAMPLE: THE BAD NEWS: 1) THE 'CREST OF THE HILL' PROBLEM SEEMS JUST AS BAD AS V7.1. ALL BETS ARE OFF WHAT AP IS GOING TO DO WHEN YOU CREST A HILL, SO A FIRM GRIP ON THE WHEEL TO MAKE SURE AP DOES NOT DO SOMETHING SILLY IS REQUIRED WHEN CRESTING A HILL. 2) THERE IS A USE CASE WHICH IS QUITE DANGEROUS. WHEN YOU APPROACH STOPPED TRAFFIC DIRECTLY AHEAD THE RADAR 'SEES' THE STOPPED TRAFFIC, IDENTIFIES THE STOPPED TRAFFIC AS A TARGET, AND BRAKES SENSIBLY. EVERY TIME SO FAR. HOWEVER, WHEN THE ROAD IS CURVED AND THE STOPPED TRAFFIC IS NOT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE CAR (BUT IS OFF TO THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT) THEN THE AP DOES NOT ACQUIRE THE STOPPED TRAFFIC AS A TARGET, AND DOES NOT BRAKE. YOU HAD BETTER BE PREPARED TO MANUALLY BRAKE HARD IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE. MINE HASN'T IMPROVED. IT STILL WANDERS ACROSS CLEAR LINES INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC. THE LINES ARE INDICATED ON THE INSTRUMENT CLUSTER IN BLUE AND THE CAR IS SHOWN STRADDLING THE LINE. IT'S LIKE THE AP HAS GIVEN UP BUT HASN'T WARNED ME. I HAD THE AP SET FOR 50 MPH AND A CAR PULLED OUT AND STOPPED ACROSS MY LANE ABOUT 800 FT AHEAD. AP SHOWED NO SIGNS OF SLOWING, AND AT ABOUT 150 FT I HAD TO COME TO A HARD STOP MANUALLY TO AVOID A COLISION. FUNNY I WAS GOING TO START A NEW THREAD ABOUT HOW AP IS TOO SCARY TO USE IN 8.0. GUESS I'M NOT ALONE. BOTH BRAKING AND STEERING. IF I COULD GO BACK SEVERAL REVISIONS, I WOULD. I DON'T FEEL LIKE USING IT ALMOST ANYWHERE ANYMORE. TTHE CAR BRAKES TOO HARD AND TOO FAR AWAY FROM CARS AHEAD TURNING RIGHT - EVEN WHEN THERE'S A TURN LANE. I'M ALWAYS AFRAID THAT SOMEONE IS GOING TO REAR-END ME WHEN THIS HAPPENS

I WAS DRIVING MY CAR TO WORK AND ACCIDENTALLY SCRAPED THE FRONT RIGHT WHEEL ON A CURB NEAR A ROUNDABOUT ON AN OLD/NARROW SEATTLE STREET (THERE WAS ONCOMING TRAFFIC AND PARKED CARS SO I HAD VERY LITTLE ROOM ON MY RIGHT AND MIS-JUDGED). THE PAINT ON THE WHEEL WAS PRETTY BADLY SCRAPED UP BUT OTHERWISE THE CAR WAS FINE (NO BODY DAMAGE) AND THE WHEEL HAD NO VISUAL STRUCTURAL DAMAGE (THE CAR'S ALIGNMENT WAS NOT AFFECTED). I CONTINUED DRIVING TO WORK WITHOUT ISSUE, INCLUDING 5-6 MILES ON THE HIGHWAY AT 60MPH. WHEN PARKING IN THE UNDERGROUND GARAGE AT MY OFFICE 20 MINUTES AFTER THE CURB INCIDENT, I TURNED THE WHEEL TO THE LEFT TO ADJUST MY CAR IN THE PARKING SPOT AND HEARD/FELT A RUBBING SOUND, FOLLOWED BY A LOUD CLUNK. THE FRONT RIGHT OF THE CAR DROPPED AND THE WHEEL FELL OFF THE SUSPENSION AND WAS WEDGED UNDER THE FRONT OF THE CAR. THE CAR WAS DISABLED AND HAD TO BE TOWED TO TESLA. GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF FORCE APPLIED TO THE WHEEL BY THE CURB AND THE LACK OF OTHER SYMPTOMS, IT SEEMS UNLIKELY THAT ANY NORMAL, STOCK SUSPENSION SHOULD FAIL AS IT DID WITH THIS CAR. IT APPEARS A BOLT ON THE LOWER CONTROL ARM SHEARED OFF COMPLETELY WHEN I WAS PARKING (AND HAD PROBABLY BEEN FATIGUED BY THE CURBING INCIDENT).

DRIVING DOWN THE FREEWAY AT MAXIMUM SPEED LIMIT (65) NEEDED TO REMOVE WALLET FROM BACK POCKET. UNBUCKLED SEAT BELT WHY STILL MOVING AT MAXIMUM SPEED LIMIT. UPON UNBUCKLING SEAT BELT ENGINE IMMEDIATE SHUT OFF AND VEHICLE CAME TO INVOLUNTARY STOP WITHIN APPROXIMATELY 5 SECONDS. FORTUNATELY, THE VEHICLE FOLLOWING WAS ALERT AND STOPPED IN TIME TO AVOID SERIOUS REAR END ACCIDENT. VERY CONCERNING IF THIS OCCURS AND OWNERS ARE NOT NOTIFIED OF THE DANGER WE EXPERIENCED.

OWNERS SAY YOU WOULD NOT DARE TO BAN ELON'S AUTOPILOT! HTTPS://TESLAMOTORSCLUB.COM/TMC/THREADS/RED-HANDS-OF-SHAME.77954/PAGE-2 S4WRXTTCS, GREEN1 SAID: ↑ YOU KEEP CLAIMING THAT THE NHTSA HAS SECRETLY ORDERED TESLA TO DISABLE THINGS ON PEOPLES CARS. EITHER PROVIDE THE STATEMENT FROM THE NHTSA, OR AGREE THAT TESLA IS DOING THIS OF THEIR OWN ACCORD. THE NHTSA TENDS TO WORK WITH MANUFACTURES THEY GIVE THE MANUFACTURE A CHANCE TO COMPLY WITH WHAT THEY "RECOMMEND" WITHOUT OFFICIALLY ORDERING THEM TO DO ANYTHING. US CORPORATIONS HATE REGULATION, AND TEND TO BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO AVOID IT. IN THE US YOU CAN'T EVEN WATCH A VIAGRA COMMERCIAL WITHOUT PART OF THE AD BEING DEDICATED TO SAYING THAT IT WON'T PREVENT STD'S. LIKE HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD I EVEN GET IT IN MY MIND THAT IT WOULD? GREEN1 ALBERTA, CANADA NEW IF YOU WANT THE ADDED HOLD WHEEL NAGS, FEEL FREE TO INSTALL THE DOWNGRADE. THERE IS NOTHING STOPPING YOU FROM DOING SO. I'M JUST POINTING OUT THAT I DON'T HAVE TO. AND THAT TESLA HAS NO LEGAL ABILITY TO FORCE ME TO DO SO. THEY ARE FREE TO CHANGE THE WAY THINGS WORK FOR NEW OWNERS, BUT THEY HAVE NO LEGAL ABILITY TO MAKE ANY CHANGES WHATSOEVER TO SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY WITHOUT THAT PERSON'S EXPRESS CONSENT. IN FACT THAT IS ALMOST GUARANTEED TO BE THE WHOLE REASON WHY YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT SOFTWARE UPDATES MANUALLY. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUSH THEM AUTOMATICALLY, BUT THEIR LAWYERS PROBABLY DIDN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE LEGAL FALLOUT OF THAT ONE, THIS WAY THEY CAN SHOW YOU CONSENTED. THERE HAS NEVER, IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF AUTOMOTIVE TRANSPORT, BEEN EVEN A SINGLE TIME WHEN THE GOVERNMENT HAS FORCED OWNERS TO COMPLY WITH AN OFFICIAL RECALL, THEY CERTAINLY WON'T BE FORCING IT FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY WON'T EVEN GO ON RECORD AS HAVING REQUIRED. ENJOY YOUR NAGS. IT'S YOUR CHOICE.

I DROVE THE CAR INTO A PARKING SPACE AT THE SCHOOL (DESERT CHRISTIAN ELEMENTARY) IN TUCSON ARIZONA ON SEPT 16TH ABOUT 11:05 AM, WHEN THE CAR ACCELERATED ON ITS OWN (UNINTENDED ACCELERATION) AND CRASHED INTO 2 PARKED VEHICLES AND AIRBAGS DEPLOYED AND I SUSTAINED A FRACTURE OF MY RIGHT ARM REQUIRING SURGERY. ALSO MY CAR (THE TESLA MODEL S) WAS DAMAGED AND THE TWO OTHER PARKED CARS.

DOOR HANDLES ARE HEATED TO HIGHT TEMPERATURES FROM EXPOSURE TO SUN LIGHT AND IS BURNING OUR FINGERS.

FRONT SEAT-BELTS FIXED TO WALL OF CAR (NOT 3 POSITION FOR DRIVER HEIGHT). FOR ANYONE 5'5'' OR LESS THIS PUTS THE BELT AGAINST THE SIDE OF THROAT, MEANING INSTANT DEATH IN BAD COLLISION. HAVE TO MANUALLY MOVE IT OVER TO SHOULDER BLADE EVERY 5 MINUTES WHILE DRIVING. CAR RECENTLY TOTALED. I WOULD BE DEAD IF HAD NOT MOVED BELT AWAY FROM NECK 3 MINUTES EARLIER. TESLA SAYS THEY TESTED IT IN SHORT PEOPLE...BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT WITH CARS IN MOTION. MULTIPLE CONCERNS ON THE INTERNET. TESLA IGNORED MY COMPLAINTS. THEY HAVE FIXED IT ON THEIR NEW 2016 MODEL WITH GULL-WINGS....3 POSITIONS LIKE MOST CARS. HAVE DONE NOTHING FOR 2015 85S MODEL. NEEDS RECALL! SHORT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE THEIR CAROTID ARTERY RIPPED OUT IN A COLLISION.

HERE IS A TESLA IN THE SALVAGE YARD HTTP://WWW.COPART.COM/US/LOT/34215386?SEARCHID=1942545060 THE BALL JOINT HAS PULLED OUT FROM THE STEERING KNUCKLE CAUSING THE WHEEL TO SLEW BACK INTO THE WHEEL WELL. THE WHEEL LINER IS SHREDDED. THERE IS NO IMPACT DAMAGE FORWARD OF THE WHEEL THAT WOULD ACCOUNT FOR THE DAMAGE. TESLA SUSPENSIONS ARE FAILING IN A VARIETY OF WAYS WHICH SUGGESTS THAT THE DESIGN, MANUFACTURE, AND TESTING ARE INADEQUATE AND PRESENT A HAZARD TO THE PUBLIC. PLEASE INVESTIGATE.

ANOTHER YOUTUBE VIDEO JUST UPLOADED. HTTPS://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=DBPQIHWSHOS&LIST=PLGHIWFEZNJ69DIFSUAGINJCL2GGYRRXBC THIS OWNER HAS ASTONISHING OVERCONFIDENCE IN THE AUTOPILOT AND IS USING IT ON UNDIVIDED ROADS WITH PARKED CARS AND MANY OTHER HAZARDS HANDS FREE EXCEPT FOR A LIGHT TOUCH ON THE WHEEL TO DEFEAT THE NAG. THE WAY THAT AUTOPILOT HAS BEEN ADVERTISED HAS LEAD TO A DEADLY FAITH IN THE SYSTEM. PLEASE STOP THIS CRAZY EXPERIMENT IMMEDIATELY

ANOTHER MODEL S IN THE SALVAGE YARD WITH A COLLAPSED FRONT SUSPENSION. HTTPS://M.IAAI.COM/VEHICLEDETENC.ASPX?AUCTIONID=0&ITEMID=22996029&ROWID=6&PAGESOURCE=VEHICLERESULTS# AIRBAGS NOT DEPLOYED. NO SIGN OF COLLISION DAMAGE BUT BOTH FRONT WHEELS ARE JAMMED UP IN THE WHEEL WELLS AND HAVE TANGLED UP IN THE LINER. THE NUMBER OF SIMILAR INCIDENTS IS ALARMING. PLEASE INVESTIGATE.