2002 TIFFIN ALLEGRO Complaints

ON MAY 19, 2008 WE PURCHASED 4 NEW TIRES FROM GANIN TIRE IN MIDDLETOWN, NY FOR OUR MOTORHOME. ON MAY 30 WE DROVE TO MASSACHUSETTS. WHILE THE VEHICLE WAS PARKED, MY HUSBAND NOTICED CRACKS IN ONE OF THE TIRES. UPON CHECKING WITH OUR TIRE INFORMATION BROCHURE THAT CAME WITH THE VEHICLE, MY HUSBAND DISCOVERED THAT THE TIRES MAY, IN FACT, BE 10 YEARS OLD, ALTHOUGH WE PURCHASED THEM 2 WEEKS AGO AND THE INVOICE ALSO NOTED THAT THEY WERE NEW. WHILE WE WERE IN MASSACHUSETTS. MY HUSBAND CALLED MICHELIN AND THEY ALSO CONFIRMED THAT THE DOT NUMBERS INDICATED THAT THE TIRES WERE BUILT IN 1998. AS WE WERE DRIVING TO GET BACK HOME TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINATING DEALER FOR THE TIRES, THE BACK RIGHT TIRE BLEW OUT THE INNER SIDEWALL. WE GOT OFF THE ROAD AND CALLED FOR ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE. WE HAD TO PURCHASE ANOTHER TIRE WHICH WAS INSTALLED AT THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THEN WE DROVE TO THE NEAREST MICHELIN DEALER. WE WERE TOLD THAT ALL TIRES WE DRY-ROTTEN, THE BELT IN THE TIRE THAT FAILED WAS RUSTED AND THE DEALER IN MASSACHUSETTS INDICATED THAT ALL TIRES WERE USED AS THE TREAD DEPTH INDICATED THAT THE TIRES WERE WORN WAY BEYOND 300 MILES (APPROX 11/32 TREAD-DEPTH AND MICHELIN INDICATED THAT NEW TREAD DEPTH IS 16.4/32). WE REPLACED ALL TIRES AND WE KEPT ALL TIRES THAT WERE TAKEN OFF. WE ARE ALSO CONTACTING MICHELIN MANAGEMENT. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS WAS NOT A FAILURE OF A MICHELIN TIRE, BUT A FAILURE OF THE DEALER BY SELLING OLD, USED TIRES AS NEW. *TR

CUMMINS LSC SERIAL#46171810, DIESEL FUEL LIFT PUMP 2002 ALEGRO BUS RV WEATHER COLD. FUEL LIFT PUMP LOST GASKET BETWEEN MOUNTING BRACKET AND PUMP, CAUSING FUEL TO DRAIN ONTO STARTER AND THEN GROUND. HAVE SEEN PROBLEM MANY TIMES IN PAST AS I'M A DIESEL MECHANIC. MOST ALWAYS IN COLD WEATHER. SAME PROBLEM EACH TIME,LOSS OF GASKET, PUMP STILL FUNCTIONING. FUEL LEAK ONTO STARTER IS ENOUGH TO CAUSE FEAR OF STARTER IGNITING FUEL. FIRE DANGER IS IN MY OPINION VERY HIGH! MY RV WAS PARKED IN DRIVE WITH NO APPARENT LEAK. "KEY" MUST BE IN "ON" POSITION TO RAISE LANDING GEAR,MOTOR NOT RUNNING. THE 5-10 MINUTES I TOOK TO RAISE THE LANDING GEAR, MOTOR WAS NOT STARTED, LEFT A PUDDLE ON MY DRIVEWAY OF ABOUT AN 18-24" CIRCLE. I DO NOT KNOW THE QUANTITY OF DIESEL FUEL THAT WAS IN THIS CIRCLE, BUT I DO KNOW IF IT HAD CAUGHT FIRE MY RV WOULD HAVE BEEN A TOTAL LOSS BEFORE HELP COULD ARRIVE. AGAIN, I'VE BEEN A MECHANIC FOR MANY YEARS AND HAVE SEEN THIS FAILURE NUMEROUS TIMES. THE REPLACEMENT PUMP IS SUPPLIED WITH THE MOUNTING BRACKET INSTALLED. NEW PUMP MUST NOT BE REMOVED FROM BRACKET AS THE GASKET WILL NOT "SET IN" TWICE. I PURCHASED THE FIRST ONE I REPLACED TWICE. PAID FOR IT TWICE AS WELL. CUMMINS DOES NOT GIVE ANY INSTRUCTIONS WITH THE NEW PUMP, NOR WILL THEY TAKE ONE BACK THAT HAS BEEN SEPARATED FROM IT'S BASE. CUMMINS IS VERY AWARE OF THIS PROBLEM, AS THEY HAVE SERVICE BULLETINS OUT FOR IT. THE WEB ALSO COMES UP WITH RESULTS FROM A SCHOOL BUS SITE DISCUSSING A RECALL. THIS RECALL LISTS RVS IN IT AS WELL. RECALL#05E-007 I DON'T EXPECT AN ANSWER TO THIS COMPLAINT, BUT WOULD LIKE SOME SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT IT WAS RECIEVED. I WILL BE "GOING TO BAT" WITH CUMMINS IN AMARILLO TEXAS ON MONDAY MORNING THE 21ST OF JANUARY 2008. I'M EXPECTING A HEATED DISCUSSION, AS I KNOW FIRST HAND THE COST AND DIFFICULTLY OF THIS REPAIR. ONE MORE TIME I'LL MAKE THIS REPAIR IN THE COLD AND WHERE THE TRUCK STOPPED. LES DRUMMOND *TR

WORKHORSE CHASSIS AUTOMATIC PARKING BRAKE LOCKED WITHOUT WARNING AND WITHOUT PULLING THE AUXILIARY BUTTON. WOULD NOT RELEASE AND I HAD TO GO UNDER THE VEHICLE AND DISCONNECT IT. (THERE IS NO TRANSMISSION LOCK SO THE VEHICLE CAN ROLL AND HAS TO BE BLOCKED.) FORTUNATELY I WAS NOT AT SPEED BUT THE REPAIR SHOP ADVISED THIS HAS HAPPENED TO A CUSTOMER AT HIGHWAY SPEED; CAUSING MANY THOUSANDS DAMAGE. *NM *AK

DT: THE CONTACT OWNS A 2002 ALLEGRO BUS MOTOR HOME AND HE IS HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE ORIGINAL TIRES ON THE VEHICLE THAT WAS MANUFACTURED BY MICHELIN. IN 2000 2 TIRES BLEW OUT. IN APRIL 2005 TWO MORE TIRES BLEW OUT. ALL TOGETHER 4 TIRES BLEW OUT OF THE ORIGINAL 6 TIRES. HE HAD MOTOR HOME AND TIRES REGULARLY MAINTAINED. HE WAS DRIVING AT THE TIME OF BOTH INCIDENTS. THE FIRST TIME ONE TIRE BLEW OUT, AND HE PROBABLY HADN'T DRIVEN 50 MILES WHEN THE OTHER TIRE BLEW OUT. THE TIRES HAD LESS THAN 20000 MILES ON THEM. TIRE SIZE 235/80R22 1/2 XRV. *AK *SB

2002 ALLEGRO RV, NEW, HAS DEMONSTRATED REPEATED SAFETY VIOLATIONS, WINDSHIELD WIPERS (2) INOPERATIVE/FAILURE TWICE, ONCE AFTER REPAIRED. SEAT BELT INOPERATIVE/FAILURE TWICE, ONCE AFTER REPAIRED. WINDSHIELDS (2) REPLACE TWICE DUE TO STRESS BREAKAGE. OVERHEAD A/C BLOWS FUSES, BECAUSE OF SHORTAGE, FUSE PANEL LOCATED UNDER CLOSET OVER THE PROPPANE TANK. IF PANEL FAILS THEN FIRE COULD CAUSE DEATH OR INJURY. HAVE ALL RELATED CORRESPONDENCE, CAN FURNISH YOUR OFFICE. RV PLACE "IN-OP STATUS" WITH CA DMV BECAUSE OWNER AFRAID TO OPERATE UNDER CURENT CONDITIONS. *AK

2002 TIFFIN ALLEGRO HAS PROBLEMS WITH WINDSHIELD WIPERS, SEAT BELT MALFUNCTIONED, AND DOOR LOCKS.*MR THE CONSUMER WAS UNABLE TO LATCH THE SEAT BELT, THE MOTOR UNIT OF THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS WAS COMPLETELY DETACHED FROM THE BODY, BOTH WINDSHIELDS BROKE DUE TO STRESS. THE VEHICLE HAD AN ELECTRICAL DEFECT THAT CONTINUOUSLY CAUSED POWER FAILURES AND CIRCUIT BREAKERS TO BLOW. THE COMMODE WAS INOPERABLE. THE RV HAD A DEFECT IN THE DESIGN WHICH ALLOWED STRUCTURAL MOVEMENT.*JB

TIFFIN MOTORHOME PROBLEMS EXPERIENCE WITH RV DRIVERS SEAT BELT , BOTH WINDSHIELD WIPERS AND ELECTRICAL SYSTEM. VEHICLE WARPED AND MISALIGNED BODY CHASSIS. *BF THE VEHICLE OVERHEAD A/C FAILED. THE 20 AMP FUSE BLEW INTERMITTENTLY WHEN THE CONSUMER TRIED TO USE THE A/C. WHEN THE CONSUMER ATTEMPTED TO BUCKLE THE BELT IT TIGHTENED AND WOULDN'T RELEASE. THE ENTRANCE DOOR WAS OUT OF ALIGNMENT THEREFORE IT COULDN'T BE LOCKED FORM THE OUTSIDE. THE DINING SEAT TOP RAISED UP ABOUT AND INCH BECAUSE IT HAD NOTHING UNDER IT FOR SECURITY. THE EXHAUST PIPE WAS NOT ATTACHED TO THE FRAME OF THE VEHICLE. THE TOILET VALVE STUCK IN THE OPEN POSITION LEAVING THE TANK EXPOSED OR THE SMELL TO COME BACK INTO THE VEHICLE. THE REARVIEW MIRROR MOVED WHILE THE CONSUMER WAS YIELDING INTO TRAFFIC. THE WINDSHIELD HAD STRESS CRACKS FROM BEING INSTALLED INCORRECTLY. *NM

ON OCTOBER 10, 2003 CONSUMER NOTICED A BULGE ON THE SIDEWALL OF THE RIGHT FRONT TIRE. ON FEBRUARY 23, 2004 THE RIGHT REAR INNER DUAL TIRE BLEW OUT, AND SEPARATED WHILE DRIVING 65 MPH. THERE WAS SOME EXTENSIVE DAMAGE TO THE REAR FENDER. *AK

VEHICLE HAS CUT OFF WHILE DRIVING ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. FEEL FREE TO PROVIDE ANY FURTHER INFORMATION.*AK

THERE IS A WATER LEAKAGES IN THE BACK SLIDE OUT WHEN USED. FEEL FREE TO PROVIDE ANY FURTHER INFORMATION.*AK