2008 IC BUS CE Complaints

THIS VEHICLE HAS AN INTERNATIONAL DT466 EGR MOTOR. WHILE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD DURING THE MORNING ROUTE AT 55 MPH, THE DRIVER STATED THAT THE VEHICLE SUDDENLY STARTED SMOKING FROM UNDERNEATH THE HOOD AND IT IMMEDIATELY SHUT DOWN ON HER. THIS LEFT THE BUS FULL OF KIDS STRANDED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AS FAR ONTO THE SHOULDER AS THE DRIVER COULD COAST. THE CAUSE WAS A BLOWN HIGH PRESSURE OIL LINE WHICH COMES FROM THE HIGH PRESSURE OIL PUMP AND LEADS TO THE HIGH PRESSURE OIL RAIL.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 IC CE300 INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL BUS. WHILE TRAVELING 10 MPH, THE VEHICLE SUDDENLY STALLED WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS DIAGNOSED BY THE CONTACT WHERE HE OBSERVED THAT THE OIL LINE WAS SPLIT, CAUSING HOT ENGINE OIL TO SPRAY ONTO THE ENGINE. THE OIL LINES WERE REPLACED BY THE CONTACT. THE CURRENT AND THE FAILURE MILEAGES WERE 56,690. AN ADDITIONAL FAILURE ON A SISTER BUS (MILEAGE 47261) ON MARCH 28, 2011. I KNOW OF ANOTHER DISTRICT NEARBY THAT HAS HAD THIS PROBLEM ALSO.

AS YOU ARE DRIVING DOWN THE HIGHWAY THE MIL LAMP (ENGINE EMISSIONS CONTROL MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LAMP) COMES ON AND THE BUS WILL GO TO IDLE AND YOU CAN NOT ACCELERATE. YOU MUST STOP SHUT THE ENGINE KEY OFF AND RESTART AND THE LIGHT GOES OFF AND THE BUS RUNS FINE UNTIL THE MIL LIGHT COMES ON AGAIN. THIS IS INTERMITTENT. SOME TIMES IT DOESN'T DO IT AT ALL AND SOME TIMES IT WILL COME ON ONE TO FOUR TIMES ON A 15 MILE RUN. *TR

OWNER OPERATOR OF SCHOOL BUS STATES THAT FOUR (UPPER-LOWER-RIGHT-LEFT) DUAL PANE DOOR WINDOWS HAVE FOGGED DUE TO WATER ENTRY BETWEEN THE PANES. OWNER HAS REMOVED THE PANES IN AN ATTEMPT TO CORRECT AND FOUND THAT (AT LEAST ONE OF) THE PANES HAD COMPLETELY SEPARATED FROM THE PANE "SANDWICH." OWNER WAS UNABLE TO REMOVE COATING FROM THE GLASS WITH SOLVENTS, ETC. THIS OWNER IS PART OF A GROUP OF EIGHT PURCHASERS WHO PURCHASED A PORTION OF "ON-SITE" INVENTORY OF BUSSES WHICH WERE ALL EQUIPPED WITH THE SAME GLASS FEATURE (I.E. PURCHASERS DID NOT SPECIFY THIS OPTION). OWNER OF A RELATED VEHICLE PREVIOUSLY FILED VOQ 10416533. ..UPDATED 10/19/11 *BF THE CONSUMER STATED HE WAS UNABLE TO SEE CHILDREN APPROACHING THE BUS FROM THE REAR, DUE TO THE FOGGED GLASS. 01/23/12

WE HAVE HAD 4 2008 MODEL IC 77 CAPACITY SCHOOL BUSES THAT THE ENTRANCE DOOR HAS BROKEN AND FALLEN OFF OF THE BUS. IN ALL 4 CASES THE DOOR FRAME BROKE AT THE UPPER HINGE PIVOT POINT AND ALLOWED THE DOOR TO BECOME DETACHED FROM THE VEHICLE. THE FRACTURES IN THE METAL FRAME LOOK EXTREMELY SIMILAR IN ALL 4 CASES. THEE FIRST INCIDENT WAS IN OCTOBER 2008, THE LATEST INCIDENT WAS LAST WEEK. *TR

I HAVE A SERIES OF 2008 CONVENTIONAL IC SCHOOL BUSES (21 BUSES) THAT WERE PURCHASED NEW IN JULY 2008. SINCE THE BEG. OF THE SCH. YR, (AUG. 20TH) WE HAVE HAD 5 ENTRANCE (EMERGENCY) DOORS SHEAR OFF AT THE TOP OF THE DOOR AND FALL OUTWARD, BEING HELD SOLELY BY THE BOTTOM PIN. THIS IS A HUGE SAFETY ISSUE. IF THE BOTTOM PIN WERE TO GIVE WAY ALSO...THE DOOR WOULD FALL ON THE CHILDREN THAT ARE LOADING OR UNLOADING. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THESE DOORS ARE DEFECTIVE AND THAT THERE IS NO PLAN TO RECALL. NO ONE KILLED OR INJURED...YET SO THE DEALER SAYS THAT THEY ARE JUST REPLACING THEM AS THEY BREAK OFF. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE WORKS TO RECALL THESE BUSES BEFORE ONE OF THESE DOORS FALLS ONTO A SMALL CHILD? I HAVE SUBMITTED THE INFO. FOR THE FIRST VEHICLE HAD THE PROBLEM. IF NEED BE I WILL SUBMIT FOR THE OTHER 4 VEHICLES. *TR